marco rubio and republican members of the gang of eight have been working very closely with house members, especially the more conservative ones, but they are not getting a great reaction. they are getting a lot of skepticism from republicans who don't think that this immigration bill is the right way to proceed. so they've got a sales job to do within their own conference. shira is right, this is an unwhipable conference. and there are a number of members for whom it's good politics to be against leadership, to say this bill isn't conservative enough so i'm going to vote against it even if house leadership is for it. this is a fascinating time in a lot of the commentary on immigration today, people who were saying this bill is going to pass in july and it will get through the house before the august recess, i'm now seeing people say, well, if this bill passes at all, and they are talking about a much longer timeline than the one they talked about a few weeks ago. >> are they talking about a much longer timeline? is that what you think, shira? >> perhaps, but i think the august recess loo